The Trinity in Duality

[Celtaur]

What I have found particularly interesting, is that a majority of snowflakes (under magnification) have 6 points.

I believe this has something to do with a combination of the sacred number 3, the trinity which manifests form, with the duality of the universe (doubled) = 3X2 = 6 sides

And in ancient beliefs the number 6 was the number of man. So is this a metaphor for the dimension that humanity lives in?



And the six petals of the flower of life in sacred geometry relate to this as well I would say.

[Conscious One]

I am not sure about the snowflake. I am a snowboarder, and yes, you are right, they all look the same to me going down the hill at 35 miles and hour.
I understand your question though. I do understand quite a bit about dimensions though, including the ones we are living in and the one that is going to be enveloping our realm soon. We are mostly in the 3rd dimension at the moment, and are still in the 2nd, (but very few) and this can be proven through science. But there are beliefs that the shift in 2012 is of course a mental shift, and will consist of a conscious shift into the 4th dimension. This is a higher vibraiton of frequencies which leads to a higher undertsanding and processing of information, as well as a cleansing of multiplicites of mass thought preparing for the consciousness shift that the masters and eagles, and inner leaders have been working on for thousands of years. The shift will require humans to be at a higher level of vibration physically and mentally to be at full awareness of the changes and be part of the higher level of thinking and cleansing. So there is preparation and actually a process that can teach the body and mind to generate this higher level of consciousness, because remember, we are 2 parts, animal and spiritual, physical and mental, Tangible and non-tangible, we have a brain, which is the thinking system of the body, and we have a mind, which is the thinking system of the soul.

[Celtaur]

We are mostly in the 3rd dimension at the moment, and are still in the 2nd, (but very few) and this can be proven through science.

There are those who live in the 2nd dimension?

But there are beliefs that the shift in 2012 is of course a mental shift, and will consist of a conscious shift into the 4th dimension. This is a higher vibraiton of frequencies which leads to a higher undertsanding and processing of information, as well as a cleansing of multiplicites of mass thought preparing for the consciousness shift that the masters and eagles, and inner leaders have been working on for thousands of years. The shift will require humans to be at a higher level of vibration physically and mentally to be at full awareness of the changes and be part of the higher level of thinking and cleansing. So there is preparation and actually a process that can teach the body and mind to generate this higher level of consciousness, because remember, we are 2 parts, animal and spiritual, physical and mental, Tangible and non-tangible, we have a brain, which is the thinking system of the body, and we have a mind, which is the thinking system of the soul.

What have you learned the 4th dimension is about and the process of the physical and mental preparation?

[Conscious One]

Within my research I have found certain aspects about dimensions. Think of it this way, what is 2 dimensions? If you can draw a single line, with the first point, and the 2nd point, the view of the line is 2 dimensional.
Now take a look at 3 dimensions, draw 3 points, now look into it and you see the front, and the sides, 3 dimensions, like we view a human, or at least most of us.
There are people that are still seeing in the 2nd dimension, looking and seeing people flat, and yes, thats truth, science can prove it. So what does that mean? It means that the people that are still seeing in the 2nd dimension are processing the thought particles at a very slow rate. Think of it as a lower level of consciosness, a denser energy. Those people are at a lower vibration on a level scale than somebody who sees in the 3rd dimension. Now, lets take a look at the 4th dimension, what is it? It is really simple, now picture 4 points, then draw the lines, now you can see the sides, the front, the back and actually 8 total sides because you are seeing all 4 dimensions. So what is the 4th dimension? It is being in a higher vibration, a higher level of consciousness, a higher frequency, processing information at a much quicker rate.
So what are the benefits? Well, imagine, less stress, higher consciousness, more money, more energy, more everything in a higher vibration, even sex!! This is the truth, and now as the world in its progression in the past required that the human beings develop the ability to think and see in the 3rd dimension compared to the 2nd, it is now time again for the transformation into the 4th dimension.
There are master teachers and inner guides that believe that shift of 2012 is not a destructive shift, rather a shifting in thinking from the 3rd dimension vibtrational surounding into the 4th, a raising in consciousness, and that the world is going to require the human beings to be consciously in the 4th dimension before the total shifting, actually its 2013 to my understanding.
It is a practice, it requires a shift in thinking, it demands repetition as anything else such as meditation, or training, or becoming a soccer player, it requires practice. Even the body is going to require to be adjusted to the proper viration to stimulate the molecules properly to obtain the ability to project the higher level of consciousness.
Dont believe me about this, I ask you to do that, I ask you only to observe and notice those around you, and maybe you will notice a difference in vibrations and in frequencies. I ask you to think for yourself, and be conscious about your thinking, for it is the most powerful thing.
Namaste-

[Conscious One]

The proper preparation is a practice as I said. Any person can do it, but few know it. It is a form of meditation, yes, it is a form of hypotherapy, yes, it is a form of inner communication of the other side. I am going to keep this part short, for I do not want to involve any beliefs, for those are individual, but I will say, there are guides doing work on the inside, believe it or not, and actually yes there is a way to communicate with them, a process that was created by a man known to the world as a savior, as well a licensed Dr.
There is also a practice that is needed in order to truly understand this concept, maybe I can give more information, but I dont feel at this very moment is the right time.
Thank you
Namaste

[Celtaur]

Here's an interesting article on dimensions, it is from a scientific perspective.

Think of it this way, what is 2 dimensions? If you can draw a single line, with the first point, and the 2nd point, the view of the line is 2 dimensional.
Now take a look at 3 dimensions, draw 3 points, now look into it and you see the front, and the sides, 3 dimensions, like we view a human, or at least most of us.

From my understanding 3 points makes a 2 dimensional triangle rather than a 3 dimensional object. 3 dimensions is made up of planes at different angles, height, width, breadth. See my attachment at the bottom.

There are people that are still seeing in the 2nd dimension, looking and seeing people flat, and yes, thats truth, science can prove it.

I don't understand this, how could people exist in 2 dimensions? wouldn't they be flat and unable to move around objects on earth. They would only be on a flat surface like a painting or drawing, and wouldn't have organs, etc. They wouldn't be people as we know it, they would be some other form of consciousness, like a flat sheet only able to move in one plane, like around a piece of paper.

[Conscious One]

Right, the points connected with different planes and angles, I am jsut using that as an example to notice the differenc in dimensions.
So, lets take a look at human understanding.
Lets look at the truth. Everything that is understood is viewed through a perspective, is that right? Each person has a different perspective on what a glass of water tastes like, or a piece of specific fabric feels on the skin, or what the word "common-sense" means.
Lets take a look at the 2 words for a moment, if I were a person that was a book, I would tell you, "yes, I know what common sense means, it means feeling, which is the sense part, and it means a large group of people, which is the common part. So common sense means a large group of people that have the same feeling, is that right?
Yes and no. It is right for that person because that is what they believe, but it is not right for me, and may be even a different meaning for you, I dont know. What I do know is that the meaning of common sense for that human book is their own perception of the word, their own belief.
But, if you recognize the word sense, and say that it means feeling, how can you be sure that every person in that "common" group has the same level of feeling? How can you be sure that each person does not have a different level of feeling towards whatever topic is being discussed?
You see, the meaning of common sense for every person is based upon there own perspective, their own beliefs!
When we believe, what are we doing?
We are creating.
We are putting energy into a force, or a thought fueling it to go, fueling it to move, fueling to expand and grow. So if we as human beings have been expanding, and growing since we have been on this earth, or at least since what I have seen in at least that last few hundred years, then isnt it possible that we were seeing things in 2 dimensions? As flat?
This is a truth because of each individuals perspective, once we realize that, we learn to understand. We raise consciousness.
At that time, when people were seeing flat, (take christopher colombus for example, maybe he was one that only saw 2 dimensions) that is the vibration of frequency that the planet required us as human beings to be transmitting at. Then as the shifts in consciousness progress, the planet requries us to be in a higher level of thinking, a faster ability of processing, and functioning, and a higher level of consciousness.
You see, this is also a belief, if it is your belief, that is up to you, dependent on whether you see the truth in it in your particular life or not.
I teach people to be free thinkers. To examine and live as if a watchman acknowleding and accepting as your life in particular permits. If you do not believe, I understand, maybe one day your consciousness will raise and you will see the power of beliefs. This is the direct influence of all created things you see around you right now. Take a look.
Namaste-

[Celtaur]

I see... so you mean that you believe the world was flat?

I don't understand how, even with imagining, humans could exist, survive, sail the sea's if things were 2 dimensions.

The world is a sphere, which allows for 3 dimensions. Height, width and breadth can be measured in all physical things on earth.

Isn't time the 4th dimension?

[Conscious One]

My intentions are not to change your beliefs, so please remember that. And no, I do not think that the world is flat, that would mean that I am seeing in 2 dimensions, and I do not see in 2 dimensions. Though, as I said before, there are still some people that see in 2 dimensions, believe it or not, it is truth.
Let me ask you a question, do you understand magnetism? Do you know how magnetism works? Why do we have magnetism? Where does magnetism come from?
Do you know that the planets surrounding us in our solar system are in place through magnetism? Can you see the magnetism? Can you personally see the magnetic frequencies that hold us in place as we speak? I am assuming no, (though I do know assumptions are dangerous, I have a feeling that you are similar to me in the fact that you cant see the magnetic rays that are vibrating tremendously as we speak.) At least most people cant, Yet, they believe in them, is that right?
What makes you think that people can not see in the 2nd dimension, you can see in the 3rd, (I think) so what makes you think people cant see in the 4th dimension, and live in the 4th dimension? There are many dimensions, Some people that we call "psychic" understand this, yet they only of 12 of them that currently exist.
Let me explain a little bit on time to clear it up, in my personal belief, is time a dimension? Yes and no. Time is consistent of what? Numbers, and a cyclic period from when the earth rotates and revolves around the sun, is that right? Time in it's truth, was created to control, by King (saint) Gregory, (hence the name "Gregorian Calendar")
Let me explain a bit. The Gregorian Calendar was created from the Mayan calendar, and implemented in the 1500's I believe. The Mayan's never had a 12 month calendar to create their understanding of time, they used a 9 month esoteric calendar that was believed more precise than anything known to man to date.
Why did the calendar become a controlling tool? I am going to allow you to think on your own to come up with your concept of how time can be controlling, just imagine being a King and taking a calendar that was never used before, implementing your own beliefs into it to control the rising, work, and lifes of the people around you, and imagine what can happen.
Before this time, there was no deep detailed concept of time like we have today.
You see, time is not as we no it, the universe is endless, the universe will continue to expand and grow as we continue to expand and grow as human beings, that's how it works. Human beings love to make things difficult, for example, due to the current clock, take a look at all of the problems that this world has..... EVERY BODY IS ALWAYS IN A HURRY TO DO SOMETHING!!
Even if it is enjoy time with their families!!!! "Oh my gosh, I need to go to work, or I have to be here, or do this, or be here by this time, or go there at this time!!" What happens in this type of environement? What happens when people get so caught up in the concept of time??
LOOK AROUND, WATCH THE NEWS!
There is natural form of time built within every human being, maybe you have heard it called "the internal clock" This is an innate ability to understand when we are going to have our babies as women, (even the projected 9 months that everybody believes is incorrect) EVERY WOMEN IS DEFFERENT! Imagine for a second how this can hurt humans so badly...... Put this into your mind for a second.
"A women, who's natural time to have a baby is 7 months, that's her natural innate intelligence of when her baby is supposed to be born, yet, all of the Dr's tell her that anything before 9 months born is a premature baby. So what happens to this women is so passionate about having her baby, for the next 7 months she believes that her baby needs to be born around 9 months to be healthy, but instead her natural system sends the baby out when its supposed to be ready, at 7 months. But now, because of the energy of the beliefs that she has now adopted is infecting her baby, making it premature, and what is the end result?? Death, suffering, sadness.
So, for us to evolve as human beings, we need to understand first that the universe is endless, there is no time except the time that we create in our minds, which actually was created to control, much like some religions and government and some corporations and so on and so forth.
The 2nd thing we need to understand is that we as human beings have a natural time built within us, and we begin to notice it once we start paying attention to it. For example, have you ever felt like "you were in the right place at the right time?" These type of occurences happen once we start putting our attention on one of the many inner abilites that we were designed with.
SO back to dimensions, Time is not a dimension. We live in a dimension, in my belief we do not live in time, for time does not exist in the inner dimensions, it is endless. The 4th dimension is something being created due to the mass thinking that has evolved this planet over the last thousands of years, and the planet is going to require us as human beings to thinking at a higher frequency, a higher vibration than ever before, a higher dimension, a higher level of consciousness. Do you want proof? Take a look at many children that are now being born. Some are being born with so much capacity and such a higher level of consciousness already enveloping their thinking that we look at them as genius, or miracle babies, is that right? It is the shifting of the consciousness, the transformation of the dimensions and it is being shown right in our very own children. Take a look. Tell me what you think.

[Celtaur]

My intentions are not to change your beliefs, so please remember that. And no, I do not think that the world is flat, that would mean that I am seeing in 2 dimensions, and I do not see in 2 dimensions. Though, as I said before, there are still some people that see in 2 dimensions, believe it or not, it is truth.
Let me ask you a question, do you understand magnetism? Do you know how magnetism works? Why do we have magnetism? Where does magnetism come from?
Do you know that the planets surrounding us in our solar system are in place through magnetism? Can you see the magnetism? Can you personally see the magnetic frequencies that hold us in place as we speak? I am assuming no, (though I do know assumptions are dangerous, I have a feeling that you are similar to me in the fact that you cant see the magnetic rays that are vibrating tremendously as we speak.) At least most people cant, Yet, they believe in them, is that right?
What makes you think that people can not see in the 2nd dimension, you can see in the 3rd, (I think) so what makes you think people cant see in the 4th dimension, and live in the 4th dimension? There are many dimensions, Some people that we call "psychic" understand this, yet they only of 12 of them that currently exist.

Hi Conscious One:

Yes I am aware your intentions are to inform and share rather than enforce beliefs We all enjoy learning and sharing... and I find your perspective very interesting. Through questioning, and challenging notions I believe we all work together to increase our awareness and perspectives.

Just to clarify, I asked if you believe the world was flat, rather than if you believe the world is flat, because according to peoples beliefs in the past they assumed it was until it was proven it wasn't.

I am also aware, as I believe most people are, that it is common knowledge, believed, experienced as well as scientifically proven that magnetism exists. There was a study a couple months ago in the media discussing how birds can actually see with receptors in their eyes the magnetic field of the earth and use it for their migratory patterns. I understand your point though, (all of our senses don't individually perceive all forms of energy) it is the same as radio, satellite, micro waves... etc.

I also think that some people can most likely see into other dimensions, through consciousness ie. third eye, etc. but not live there in their physical bodies as they are now, because the body is a 3 dimensional object and would cease to operate and function properly as it is in a 2 dimensional world. I think that is an important distinction. I also wonder if there is even the possibility of a 2 dimensional world because when things are looked at (even atoms) microscopically they have measurements that exist in the 3 dimensional plane of existence. A piece of paper is not 2 dimensional, although it may appear that way, it is 3 dimensional, therefore wouldn't anything flat still be 3 dimensional? I would think so. Considering the universe can be viewed at an ever increasing microcosmic levels as well as macro cosmic. (scopic) Because of this I have a hard time accepting the concept of someone like Christopher Columbus living in a 2 dimensional world, because clearly as a human being the requirement to function is in the 3rd dimension.

In relation to time, I do believe time exists, and I agree it is endless and beyond the scope of the conditions set upon it by a clock. I believe time is the cycles of existence, and they do exist, they move, they change, like a flower opening, unfolding. The universe is not static, it is a flowing, growing, movement of energy, and that is time. It is the cycles of the planet revolving around the sun, and considering the universe is very mathematically complex and is the universal language, the cycles can be measured and segmented yes. However, time is also subjective of course as many are aware, it seems to speed up at times and slow down at others according to one's awareness. But the cycles, the movements of the universe can not be denied. We see the sun rise and fall approximately 365 times as we travel around the sun millions of miles.

Interestingly I had a discussion with someone about how fast the earth was moving relative to distance over time. We calculated it travels through space approximately 9 miles per second. That's quite fast according to our perceptions of travelling time.