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    Many of us are used to thinking about this physical reality in terms of duality; hot & cold, up & down, hard & soft, etc., but I have begun to see things more in terms of threes.

    Left and right, up and down, hard and soft, and similar concepts are almost meaningless without a point of reference... the center. Although this is rarely seen as a distinct state in and of itself, looking at things from this point of offers some fresh perspectives.

    As an example:

    Black can only move in one direction... towards light.

    White can only move in one direction... towards darkness.

    (please note that I am talking about colors here, not spiritual paths)

    These extremes are limited in their options. Change is inevitable, and from the extreme positions, there is only one possible direction to move. This does more than limit our choices, it removes free will entirely. We then become slaves to circumstance.

    Now consider the middle position, in this example, gray.

    Gray is free to move towards dark or light as the situation demands. By offering more options, it preserves free will. Such a stance casts off the shackles of circumstance.

    If you think about it, all things are trinary, not just things in the physical realm. Consider a thought, for example. There is the thought itself, the thing being thought about, and the one doing the thinking... three, not two.

    Realizing the three-nature of all things is a form of liberation.

    I would be interested in hearing your perspectives on this concept.

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    The lesson of the third point becomes obvious within the triangle. Each apex represents a different stage- 1] initiation, 2] opposition and finally 3] integration. The lesson is inherent in the form..if we wish to evolve, we must allow polarities to be integrated. Without this additional "viewpoint" or facet, things remain two dimensional. The world is flat.

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    So true.

    Of course, the concept can be extended.

    In the physical, we can see up, down, right, left, front, back and center... 7 points.

    In the energetic, we can see the 3 ordinal planes, the 3 cardinal planes, and the Akashic plane... again 7.

    Whether we are looking at things in terms of 3s or 7s, the center always plays an important role as the connector... the bridge between the extremes where one is able to access the different aspects as the situation demands.

    It's no wonder that 3 and seven are considered sacred numbers by so many cultures.

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    Agreed. In fact, the seven is a combination of the 3, significance already discussed, and the 4, the symbol of the material plane. Seven is seen as being the spiritual interpenetrating the physical and is the first number to contain the energies of both the spiritual and the temporal, not to mention the widespread cultural significances assigned to the number 7.

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    I think the trinity is the law of relativity, the point of reference, that which perceives the duality, and is necessary for duality to exist. I don't think it's trinity vs. duality, rather I think it's that the trinity and duality are one. I think that actually the statement trinity vs. duality actually points to exactly what you are saying the "vs." is that 3rd point, the center of that which is necessary to perceive the duality of the two points of reference as comparable concepts.

    I don't think we can have a trinity without a duality. For instance the idea of gray, doesn't exist without a combination of the two - black and white, thus the duality creates the duality, but at the same time the combination of a duality creates the trinity and thus cancels out a duality as being self contained. It's as if they become a part of reality simultaneously, rather than broken down step by step, even though the steps can be counted in a sense. Amazing how a seemingly simple concept can be so complex.
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    The Dialectic Process is one method of taking a trinity perspective.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialect...alogic_process

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    That's interesting... I love that you have brought this term to my awareness, there is much to delve into on that subject, which will surely be rewarding learning.

    A core point of dialectic seems to be the keyword of compromise. "The goal of a dialectic process is to merge point and counterpoint (thesis and antithesis) into a compromise or other state of agreement (synthesis)"

    I wonder... would a compromise align more with the trinity or the duality? I would suspect the trinity, as duality points to opposing forces, whereas a trinity brings forces together in a sort of unity. However, I think that duality and trinity in essence are inseparable, but as this thread has pointed out it can be expanded upon into complicated perspectives.

    I think this is why the mystery of the trinity has long been spoken of, expressed in major religions of the world from Christianity, Hinduism, Freemasonry... It is universal, all are connected in force and form. Of course I shall have many moments of pondering on this as I learn more on the subject.
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    I like the concept of the process. It describes perfectly also the duality which is also included in the trinity as Celtaur said according to my beliefs and what I have read of what has resonated with me.

    The dialestic process describes what I studied yesterday again about "evil' and god, left and right path, yin and yang, dark and light, evil and qaballah high and low/dense magic, and the sphere of malkuth/The world card in earth based relligions such as goddess based and the elements of magic. It is the crone versus the maiden. The goal I think is synthesis and acceptance of finite versus infinite. Physical/material v conciousness. As ABOVE and BELOW. The three pillars, the middle path and severity versus mercy of god.

    A good link for gnostics, magicians, or pagans, it also has info on the other spheres and an important theory on the klipoth (dark mirror of the tree of life).
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos072.htm


    Chapter 4: The Sephiroth
    ========================
    This chapter provides a detailed look at each of the ten
    sephiroth and draws together material scattered over previous
    chapters.

    Malkuth
    -------
    Malkuth is the Cinderella of the sephiroth. It is the
    sephira most often ignored by beginners, the sephira most often
    glossed over in Cabalistic texts, and it is not only the most
    immediate of the sephira but it is also the most complex, and for
    sheer inscrutability it rivals Kether - indeed, there is a
    Cabalistic aphorism that "Kether is in Malkuth, and Malkuth is
    in Kether, but after another manner".

    The word Malkuth means "Kingdom", and the sephira is the
    culmination of a process of emanation whereby the creative power
    of the Godhead is progressively structured and defined as it
    moves down the Tree and arrives in a completed form in Malkuth.
    Malkuth is the sphere of matter, substance, the real, physical
    world. In the least compromising versions of materialist
    philosophy (e.g. Hobbes) there is nothing beyond physical matter,
    and from that viewpoint the Tree of Life beyond Malkuth does not
    exist: our feelings of identity and self-consciousness are
    nothing more than a by-product of chemical reactions in the
    brain, and the mind is a complex automata which suffers from the
    disease of metaphysical delusions. Kabbalah is *not* a
    materialist model of reality, but when we examine Malkuth by
    itself we find ourselves immersed in matter, and it is natural to
    think in terms of physics, chemistry and molecular biology. The
    natural sciences provide the most accurate models of matter and
    the physical world that we have, and it would be foolishness of
    the first order to imagine that Kabbalah can provide better
    explanations of the nature of matter on the basis of a study of
    the text of the Old Testament. Not that I under-rate the
    intuition which has gone into the making of Kabbalah over the
    centuries, but for practical purposes the average university
    science graduate knows (much) more about the material stuff of
    the world than medieval Kabbalists, and a grounding in modern
    physics is as good a way to approach Malkuth as any other.

    For those who are not comfortable with physics there are
    alternative, more traditional ways of approaching Malkuth. The
    magical image of Malkuth is that of a young woman crowned and
    throned. The woman is Malkah, the Queen, Kallah, the Bride. She
    is the inferior mother, a reflection and realization of the
    superior mother Binah. She is the Queen who inhabits the Kingdom,
    and the Bride of the Microprosopus. She is Gaia, Mother Earth,
    but of course she is not only the substance of this world; she is
    the body of the entire physical universe.


    Some care is required when assigning Mother/Earth goddesses
    to Malkuth, because some of them correspond more closely to the
    superior mother Binah. There is a close and deep connection
    between Malkuth and Binah which results in the two sephiroth
    sharing similar correspondences, and one of the oldest
    Cabalistic texts [1] has this to say about Malkuth:

    "The title of the tenth path [Malkuth] is the Resplendent
    Intelligence. It is called this because it is exalted above
    every head from where it sits upon the throne of Binah. It
    illuminates the numinosity of all lights and causes to
    emanate the Power of the archetype of countenances or
    forms."

    One of the titles of Binah is Khorsia, or Throne, and the image
    which this text provides is that Binah provides the framework
    upon which Malkuth sits. We will return to this later. Binah
    contains the potential of form in the abstract, while Malkuth is
    is the fullest realization of form, and both sephiroth share the
    correspondences of heaviness, limitation, finiteness, inertia,
    avarice, silence, and death.

    The female quality of Malkuth is often identified with the
    Shekhinah, the female spirit of God in the creation, and
    Cabalistic literature makes much of the (carnal) relationship of
    God and the Shekhinah. Waite [7] mentions that the relationship
    between God and Shekhinah is mirrored in the relationship between
    man and woman, and provides a great deal of information on both
    the Shekhinah and what he quaintly calls "The Mystery of Sex".
    After the exile of the Jews from Spain in 1492, Kabbalists
    identified their own plight with the fate of the Shekhinah, and
    she is pictured as being cast out into matter in much the same
    way as the Gnostics pictured Sophia, the outcast divine wisdom.
    The doctrine of the Shekhinah within Kabbalah and within Judaism
    as a whole is complex and it is something I don't feel competent
    to comment further on; more information can be found in [3] &
    [7].

    Malkuth is the sphere of the physical elements and
    Kabbalists still use the four-fold scheme which dates back at
    least as far as Empedocles and probably the Ark. The four
    elements correspond to four readily-observable states of matter:

    solid - earth
    liquid - water
    gas - air
    plasma - fire/electric arc (lightning)

    In addition it is not uncommon to include a fifth element so
    rarified and arcane that most people (self included) are pushed
    to say what it is; the fifth element is aethyr (or ether) and is
    sometimes called spirit.


    The amount of material written about the elements is
    enormous, and rather than reproduce in bulk what is relatively
    well-known I will provide a rough outline so that those readers
    who aren't familiar with Kabbalah will realize I am talking about
    approximately the same thing as they have seen before. A detailed
    description of the traditional medieval view of the four elements
    can be found in "The Magus" [2]. The hierarchy of elemental
    powers can be found in "777" [4] and in Golden Dawn material [5]
    - I have summarized a few useful items below:

    Element Fire Air Water Earth

    God Name Elohim Jehovah Eheieh Agla

    Archangel Michael Raphael Gabriel Uriel

    King Djin Paralda Nichsa Ghob

    Elemental Salamanders Sylphs Undines Gnomes


    It amused me to notice that the section on the elemental kingdoms
    in Farrar's "What Witches Do" [6] had been taken by Alex Saunders
    lock, stock and barrel from traditional Cabalistic and CM
    sources.

    The elements in Malkuth are arranged as follows:
    South
    Fire

    East Zenith Aethyr+ West
    Air Nadir Aethyr- Water

    North
    Earth

    I have rotated the cardinal points through 180 degrees from their
    customary directions so that it is easier to see how the elements
    fit on the lower face of the Tree of Life:

    Tiphereth
    Fire


    Hod Yesod Netzach
    Air Aethyr Water

    Malkuth
    Earth

    It is important to distinguish between the elements in Malkuth,
    where we are talking about real substance (the water in your
    body, the breath in your lungs), and the elements on the Tree,
    where we are using traditional correspondences *associated* with
    the elements, e.g.:

    Earth: solid, stable, practical, down-to-earth

    Water: sensitive, intuitive, emotional, caring, fertile

    Air: vocal, communicative, intellectual

    Fire: energetic, daring, impetuous

    Positive Aethyr: glue, binding, plastic

    Negative Aethyr: unbinding, dissolution, disintegration

    Aethyr or Spirit is enigmatic, and I tend to think of it in terms
    of the forces which bind matter together. It is almost certainly
    a coincidence (but nevertheless interesting) that there are four
    fundamental forces - gravitational, electromagnetic, weak nuclear
    & strong nuclear - known to date, and current belief is that they
    can be unified into one fundamental force. On a slightly more
    arcane tack, Barret [2] has this to say about Aethyr:

    "Now seeing that the soul is the essential form,
    intelligible and incorruptible, and is the first mover of
    the body, and is moved itself; but that the body, or matter,
    is of itself unable and unfit for motion, and does very much
    degenerate from the soul, it appears that there is a need of
    a more excellent medium:- now such a medium is conceived to
    be the spirit of the world, or that which some call a
    quintessence; because it is not from the four elements, but
    a certain first thing, having its being above and beside
    them. There is, therefore, such a kind of medium required to
    be, by which celestial souls [e.g. forms] may be joined to
    gross bodies, and bestow upon them wonderful gifts. This
    spirit is in the same manner, in the body of the world, as
    our spirit is in our bodies; for as the powers of our soul
    are communicated to the members of the body by the medium of
    the spirit, so also the virtue of the soul of the world is
    diffused, throughout all things, by the medium of the
    universal spirit; for there is nothing to be found in the
    whole world that hath not a spark of the virtue thereof."

    Aethyr underpins the elements like a foundation and its
    attribution to Yesod should be obvious, particularly as it forms
    the linking role between the ideoplastic world of "the Astral
    Light" [8] and the material world. Aethyr is often thought to
    come in two flavors - positive Aethyr, which binds, and negative
    Aethyr, which unbinds. Negative Aethyr is a bit like the
    Universal Solvent, and requires as much care in handling ;-}


    Working with the physical elements in Malkuth is one of the
    most important areas of applied magic, dealing as it does with
    the basic constituents of the real world. The physical elements
    are tangible and can be experience in a very direct way through
    recreations such as caving, diving, parachuting or firewalking;
    they bite back in a suitably humbling way, and they provide CMs
    with an opportunity to join the neo-pagans in the great outdoors.
    Our bodies themselves are made from physical stuff, and there are
    many Raja Yoga-like exercises which can be carried out using the
    elements as a basis for work on the body. If you can stand his
    manic intensity (Exercise 1: boil an egg by force of will) then
    Bardon [9] is full of good ideas.
    Malkuth is often associated with various kinds of intrinsic
    evil, and to understand this attitude (which I do not share) it
    is necessary to confront the same question as thirteenth century
    Kabbalists: can God be evil? The answer to this question was
    (broadly speaking) "yes", but Kabbalists have gone through many
    strange gyrations in an attempt to avoid what was for many an
    unacceptable conclusion. It was difficult to accept that famine,
    war, disease, prejudice, hate, death could be a part of a perfect
    being, and there had to be some way to account for evil which did
    not contaminate divine perfection. One approach was to sweep evil
    under the carpet, and in this case the carpet was Malkuth.
    Malkuth became the habitation for evil spirits.
    If one examines the structure of the Tree without prejudice
    then it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that evil is quite
    adequately accounted for, and there is no need to shuffle evil
    to the periphery of the Tree like a cleaner without a dustpan.
    The emanation of any sephirah from Chokhmah downwards can
    manifest as good or evil depending on circumstances and the point
    of view of those affected by the energy involved. This appears to
    have been understood even at the time of the writing of the
    "Zohar", where the mercy of God is constantly contrasted with the
    severity of God, and the author makes it clear that one has to
    balance the other - you cannot have the mercy without the
    severity. On the other hand, the severity of God is persistently
    identified with the rigors of existence (form, finiteness,
    limitation), and while it is true that many of the things which
    have been identified with evil are a consequence of the
    finiteness of things, of being finite beings in a world of finite
    resources governed by natural laws with inflexible causality, it
    not correct to infer (as some have) that form itself is
    *intrinsically* evil.

    The notion that form and matter are *intrinsically* evil, or
    in some way imperfect or not a part of God, may have reached
    Kabbalah from a number of sources. Scholem comments:

    "The Kabbalah of the early thirteenth century was the
    offspring of a union between an older and essentially
    Gnostic tradition represented by the book "Bahir", and the
    comparatively modern element of Jewish Neo-Platonism."


    There is the possibility that the Kabbalists of Provence (who
    wrote or edited the "Sepher Bahir") were influenced by the
    Cathars, a late form of Manicheanism. Whether the source was
    Gnosticism, Neo-Platonism, Manicheanism or some combination of
    all three, Kabbalah has imported a view of matter and form which
    distorts the view of things portrayed by the Tree of Life, and so
    Malkuth ends up as a kind of cosmic outer darkness, a bin for all
    the dirt, detritus, broken sephira and dirty hankies of the
    creation. Form is evil, the Mother of Form is female, women are
    definitely and indubitably evil, and Malkuth is the most female
    of the sephira, therefore Malkuth is most definitely evil...quod
    erat demonstrandum. By the time we reach the time of S.L. Mathers
    and the Golden Dawn there is a complete Tree of evil demonic
    Klippoth *underneath* Malkuth as a reflection of the "good" Tree
    above it. I believe this may have something to do with the fact
    that meditations on Malkuth can easily become meditations on
    Binah, and meditations on Binah have a habit of slipping into the
    Abyss, and once in the Abyss it is easy to trawl up enough junk
    to "discover" an averse Tree "underneath" Malkuth. This view of
    the Klippoth, or Shells, as active, demonic evil has become
    pervasive, and the more energy people put into the demonic Tree,
    the less there is for the original. Abolish the Klippoth as
    demonic forces, and the Tree of Life comes alive with its full
    power of good *and* evil. The following quotation from Bischoff
    [10] (speaking of the Sephiroth) provides a more rational view of
    the Klippoth:

    "Since their energy [of the sephiroth] shows three degrees
    of strength (highest, middle and lowest degree), their
    emanations group accordingly in sequence. We usually imagine
    the image of a descending staircase. The Kabbalist
    prefers to see this fact as a decreasing alienation of the
    central primeval energy. Consequently any less perfect
    emanation is to him the cover or shell (Klippah) of the
    preceding, and so the last (furthest) emanations being the
    so-called material things are the shell of the total and are
    therefore called (in the actual sense) Klippoth."

    This is my own view; the shell of something is the accretion of
    form which it accumulates as energy comes down the Lightning
    Flash. If the shell can be considered by itself then it is a dead
    husk of something which could be alive - it preserves all the
    structure but there is no energy in it to bring it alive. With
    this interpretation the Klippoth are to be found everywhere: in
    relationships, at work, at play, in ritual, in society. Whenever
    something dies and people refuse to recognize that it is dead,
    and cling to the lifeless husk of whatever it was, then you get a
    Klippah. For this reason one of the vices of Malkuth is Avarice,
    not only in the sense of trying to acquire material things, but
    also in the sense of being unwilling to let go of anything, even
    when it has become dead and worthless. The Klippah of Malkuth is
    what you would get if the Sun went out: Stasis, life frozen into
    immobility.

    The other vice of Malkuth is Inertia, in the sense of
    "active resistance to motion; sluggish; disinclined to move or
    act". It is visible in most people at one time or another, and
    tends to manifest when a task is new, necessary, but not
    particularly exciting, there is no excitement or "natural energy"
    to keep one fired up, and one has to keep on pushing right to the
    finish. For this reason the obligation of Malkuth is (has
    to be) self-discipline.

    The virtue of Malkuth is Discrimination, the ability to
    perceive differences. The ability to perceive differences is a
    necessity for any living organism, whether a bacteria able to
    sense the gradient of a nutrient or a kid working out how much
    money to wheedle out of his parents. As Malkuth is the final
    realization of form, it is the sphere where our ability to
    distinguish between differences is most pronounced. The capacity
    to discriminate is so fundamental to survival that it works
    overtime and finds boundaries and distinctions everywhere - "you"
    and "me", "yours" and "mine", distinctions of "property" and
    "value" and "territory" which are intellectual abstractions on
    one level (i.e. not real) and fiercely defended realities on
    another (i.e. very real indeed). I am not going to attempt a
    definition of real and unreal, but it is the case that much of
    what we think of as real is unreal, and much of what we think of
    as unreal is real, and we need the same discrimination which
    leads us into the mire to lead us out again. Some people think
    skin color is a real measure of intelligence; some don't. Some
    people think gender is a real measure of ability; some don't.
    Some people judge on appearances; some don't. There is clearly a
    difference between a bottle of beer and a bottle of piss, but is
    the color of the *bottle* important? What *is* important?

    What differences are real, what matters? How much energy do we devote
    to things which are "not real". Am I able to perceive how much I
    am being manipulated by a fixation on unreality? Are my goals in
    life "real", or will they look increasingly silly and immature
    as I grow older? For that matter, is Kabbalah "real"? Does it
    provide a useful model of reality, or is it the remnant of a
    world-view which should have been put to rest centuries ago? One
    of the primary exercises of an initiate into Malkuth is a
    thorough examination of the question "What is real?".

    The Spiritual Experience of Malkuth is variously the
    Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel (HGA), or
    the Vision of the HGA (depending on who you believe). I vote for
    the Vision of the HGA in Malkuth, and the Knowledge and
    Conversation in Tiphereth. What is the HGA? According to the
    Gnosticism of Valentinus each person has a guardian angel who
    accompanies that individual throughout their life and reveals the
    gnosis; the angel is in a sense the divine Self. This belief is
    identical to what I was taught by the person who taught me
    Kabbalah, so some part of Gnosticism lives on. The current
    tradition concerning the HGA almost certainly entered the Western
    Esoteric Tradition as a consequence of S.L. Mather's translation
    [11] of "The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage",
    which contains full details of a lengthy ritual to attain the
    Knowledge and Conversation of the HGA. This ritual has had an
    important influence on twentieth century magicians and it is
    often attempted and occasionally completed.

    The powers of Malkuth are invoked by means of the names
    Adonai ha Aretz and Adonai Melekh, which mean "Lord of the World"
    and "The Lord who is King" respectively. The power is transmitted
    through the world of Creation by the archangel Sandalphon, who is
    sometimes referred to as "the Long Angel", because his feet are
    in Malkuth and his head in Kether, which gives him an opportunity
    to chat to Metatron, the Angel of the Presence. The angel order
    is the Ashim, or Ishim, sometimes translated as the "souls of
    fire", supposedly the souls of righteous men and women.

    In concluding this section on Malkuth, it worth emphasizing that
    I have chosen deliberately not to explore some major topics
    because there are sufficient threads for anyone with an interest
    to pick up and follow for themselves. The image of Malkuth as
    Mother Earth provides a link between Kabbalah and a numinous
    archetype with a deep significance for some. The image of Malkuth
    as physical substance provides a link into the sciences, and it
    is the case that at the limits of theoretical physics one's
    intuitions seem to be slipping and sliding on the same reality as
    in Kabbalah. The image of Malkuth as the sphere of the elements
    is the key to a large body of practical magical technique which
    varies from yoga-like concentration on the bodily elements, to
    nature-oriented work in the great outdoors. Lastly, just as the
    design of a building reveals much about its builders, so Malkuth
    can reveal a great deal about Kether - the bottom of the Tree and
    the top have much in common.


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    Very good, Brifae. Thank you for sharing.
    So much to respond to in your post.

    The goal I think is synthesis and acceptance of finite versus infinite. Physical/material v conciousness.
    I would add my conjecture. The synthesis could be a process of evolvement. As mentioned Malkuth is a physical realm. Space-time. Science refers to humans as having a "reptilian brain" - a small part of the limbric system responsible for memory and emotioal reactions. This part of the human mind was thought to have developed early in human evolution. This part of the brain would have a very obscured spiritual eye. Dualistic thinking would be the primary logic process on this level of the human conciousness. hot/cold, fight/flight....

    Early ideas thought the earth to be flat and unmoving. The heavens a physical extension of the Earth was also unmoving. The vault of heaven a solid, physical object, a large dome.

    Elihu asks Job, “Can you beat out [raqa] the vault of the skies, as he does, hard as a mirror of cast metal (Job 37:18)?”

    The Dialectic process, is an attempt to synthesize a third persepctive: thesis and antithesis moving to a third (syn)thesis.
    Its intersting to note that the Dialectic process in based around 4 concepts.

    1. Everything is transient and finite, existing in the medium of time.
    2. Everything is made out of opposing forces/opposing sides.
    3. Gradual changes lead to turning points, where one force overcomes the other.
    4. Change moves in spirals (or helixes), not circles.

    these concepts so much like the Malkuth four elements. Maybe an attempt to evolve the human conciousness. Plato along with Socrates are rumored to have traveled and studied sacred teachings throughout the world.

    As far as the seven concept of perception, I am such a denzien of Malkuth that I really do not yet have anything intelligent to add about the seven concept.

    Namaste.

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    Could the Klippoth be in fact the Tree of Knowledge? That is the Tree in the Garden of Eden which opened the gates to ego, in essence a "shell"? Whereas the Tree of Life is what they chose not to "eat" from, but entered the realm of the Klippoth, or opened the gates for it to become part of reality in Malkuth?
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