Non-Predictive Astrology

[Tyrus]

I am a complete novice, actually other than having read a horoscope in the paper once, I know nothing about Astrology, but I want that to change.

I was reading about Astrology and Christianity and how some liberal Christians like myself are open to non-predictive Astrology but not Astrology where you are trying to find your future.

I was not aware of such a thing, and being ignorant on the subject, I have to ask, what is the point or focus of this non-predictive Astrology?

Also, as I want to begin my journey in Astrology, is it possible for me to focus on this?

Just so as you know, I am starting a journey into learning more and more about Esoteric Christianity, and feel really drawn to Astrology.

Thank you

[Briony Haldane]

Tyrus, while I am certainly not an astrologist, I would think that the non-predictive use of astrology would lie in researching your birth chart to see what you are "hard-wired" for in terms of the gifts and personality traits you were born with. Understanding these things can help you make the best use of your gifts and sometimes help you make peace with certain aspects of who you are. Similarly, an appreciation of what is happening astrologically each day, can help you make better use of the energy personally, and possibly shed some light on why things are proceeding as they are.

I don't know why you couldn't start with this subject. If this where your interest lies, go for it.

[Tyrus]

That is a great answer for not being an astrologist!

I wonder if the books for beginners are heavily focused on predictive astrology or if they provide a good medium ground.

[Briony Haldane]

There are some books that come with CDs that instruct you on how to calculate your birth chart and interpret it. That might be a good starting place. I also have heard fantastic feedback for the course that is offered here by Nadiya. I think you would be surprised to find out how little "predictive" astrology there really is. While the stars may dispose a certain energy each of us is fully free to respond as we choose. Knowing what options may be available to us, by understanding the energy could be of real value in determining our path in the present moment.

[Justyne]

I am an astrologer who does not do predictive astrology. I do what I call "soul" astrology. My mind is changing about predictive astrology and I am becoming more interested.

I have been interested in astrology since I was a child. I do not remember the first book from that time but what I do remember is this book called The Instant Horoscope Reader by Julia Lupton Skalka was a tremendous help in organizing all the information that comes with natal astrology.
It is published by Llewellyn Publications ISBN 1-56718-669-6 published 1994.
I highly recommend this book to start you quest.

Have fun!

Namaste'

[nadiya]

I am a complete novice, actually other than having read a horoscope in the paper once, I know nothing about Astrology, but I want that to change.

I was reading about Astrology and Christianity and how some liberal Christians like myself are open to non-predictive Astrology but not Astrology where you are trying to find your future.

I was not aware of such a thing, and being ignorant on the subject, I have to ask, what is the point or focus of this non-predictive Astrology?

Also, as I want to begin my journey in Astrology, is it possible for me to focus on this?

Just so as you know, I am starting a journey into learning more and more about Esoteric Christianity, and feel really drawn to Astrology.

Thank you

Hi Tyrus!

What great questions! I also think its amazing that you are so open to exploring your spirituality and thinking about what astrology could mean to you. Yes, I am biased in that I really love astrology as a spiritual practice, so I hope you continue to explore and find the answers that are right for you.

There is an astrology stream called "psychological astrology" that is covered under "non-predictive astrology". This largely grew out the work of Dane Rudhyar, who saw the chart as a "blueprint of the psyche" and was very influenced by the work of Carl Jung. The school of esoteric astrology, and the work of such people within that school like Alan Leo and Alice Baily, focus on the evolution of the soul and the assertion of free will, and though very psychological, does work on the assumption of past and future lives.

If it interests you, you might be interested to read a paper I wrote on how astrology grew into its dominant psychological stream today, the historical and cultural significance and context, at this link here. Now I will warn, it was originally an academic paper, so had to be writen with a tone and style that honored the space I was in:

http://www.nadiyashah.com/57.html

As far as Christian astrologers, I have loved the work of people like Marcilio Facino, a renaissance priest and astrologer, and the work of William lilly. Lilly in particular wrote extensively on his philosophical understanding of astrology as a Christian. He wrote a series of volumns under the title "Christian Astrology " and it may be worth a read. You can visit this excellent website and scrool down to download his texts free online here:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/texts.html

I know that's a lot of stuff to read, but you asked great questions!

*N.

[Tyrus]

Hi Tyrus!

What great questions! I also think its amazing that you are so open to exploring your spirituality and thinking about what astrology could mean to you. Yes, I am biased in that I really love astrology as a spiritual practice, so I hope you continue to explore and find the answers that are right for you.

There is an astrology stream called "psychological astrology" that is covered under "non-predictive astrology". This largely grew out the work of Dane Rudhyar, who saw the chart as a "blueprint of the psyche" and was very influenced by the work of Carl Jung. The school of esoteric astrology, and the work of such people within that school like Alan Leo and Alice Baily, focus on the evolution of the soul and the assertion of free will, and though very psychological, does work on the assumption of past and future lives.

If it interests you, you might be interested to read a paper I wrote on how astrology grew into its dominant psychological stream today, the historical and cultural significance and context, at this link here. Now I will warn, it was originally an academic paper, so had to be writen with a tone and style that honored the space I was in:

http://www.nadiyashah.com/57.html

As far as Christian astrologers, I have loved the work of people like Marcilio Facino, a renaissance priest and astrologer, and the work of William lilly. Lilly in particular wrote extensively on his philosophical understanding of astrology as a Christian. He wrote a series of volumns under the title "Christian Astrology " and it may be worth a read. You can visit this excellent website and scrool down to download his texts free online here:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/texts.html

I know that's a lot of stuff to read, but you asked great questions!

*N.

Thank you

I am actually very familiar with William Lilly through his work with Freemasonry.

I am interested in taking your course in June, will you be touching on this topic in your course? All as a complete novice, is it a good course for me to take.

[Briony Haldane]

There you go Tyrus! You're in good hands now