Quote Originally Posted by brifae View Post
good post but what feels good might not what be whats best for us long term, and to know light much darkness must be explored. focus is destiny though, our perception becomes reality, and human focus has levels of need that are physical before spiritual actuation or relationships must be made we need food.
All things can be percieved as good and accepted on some level, as though looking at the earth up high may make one think that humans are perhaps inherently peaceful. But this does not necessarily mean that all things are peaceful and good down there on earth. I think that what is good is good for us long term. Ultimate goodness to ME is like being spiritual enough to be able to converse with people and really make them feel at peace and at home, like Budda for example. If one is hungry communing with something truly divine will relax them in some way. This is the same for babies who can't talk yet but are still aware of what is going on around them. Feeling good is like drugs, it makes your worry of the world's pain go away. It can be a temporary state, just to come to when you feel like it. This feeling goodness will probably inspire one even more to want to feed the hungry. The hungry can also be fed when one is in this "high", careless, and warped in love feeling. To do so will inspire the hungry, in all their poor states too, and poor states of mind and spirit are all over the world, to aim for something that really and certainly could be out of their grasp. But to reach is human. And it is possible for a hungry and poor person out of poverty to become enlightened.

To know light much darkness must be explored. A name for this darkness is the dark night of the soul. It is also a book written by St. John. The ultimate darkness could be death, but just because one goes upon the dark night of the soul, it does not mean he needs to die. So one can suffer impecably without dieing, and so perhaps will not be thought of as the "ultimate bad boy." What one can get out of such darkness is understanding of these forces and how to politely interact with them when he encounters them in the world. To go into such darkness one really comes to understand what people can safely TAKE, and what people can SAFELY not take.
I also believe that a human can know light without knowing much darkness. A whisper of info from the past: "you can ascend by grace, or you can also ascend by______"-this other thing was something else and included trials and tribulations, within which you would suffer before and as guidance towards your ascention. I believe that the person said that ascending by grace happens less than ascending the other way. But it is possible to simply be accepted by God and brought into the light for some reason I believe. Knowing darkness helps you identify with others who have known darkness. Your experiences of survival will influence them. It also lets you know that there are circumstances of true darkness out there that simply cannot be allowed into the light yet. This is because of the way of the world right now. It aint perfect yet. But for these people they may hate, etc, and you will also understand these true "sinners" who are very oppressed and still need the opprotunity to survive. True blessings and light will enable one to talk to such a person I believe.

So you think that the physical comes before spiritual... I wonder what God thinks? Perhaps He values spiritual strife, argor, suffering because you are aiming at a true godly goal, over the physical needs. I kind of think this because true understanding of spirituality by all people would enable miracles to occur, by the people, and they could manifest physical objects from the nonphysical and feed people as was needed. Um, I think time moves slower for people who are suffering, AND for the suffering within a person who basiclly is doing fine. It's not as attractive as the place where time moves fast- enlightenment/higher faster vibrations. But still they are suffering and in need of help. One who is inspired to help a suffering person does indeed posses true "fast moving spirituality" in them. The desire to help is valued by God as good... it resonates with God and will bloom its extacy thusly. To be inspired to help the suffering, to help the suffering should not be looked down upon. It is a worthy job. The good energy of such a thing feels roughly like an "earthy sexuality" instead of the "straight up stripper" sexuality of some. I think the world should learn how to be attracted to earthy sexuality. It is both "good" "fun" and "fullfilling".

OK cool.
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