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    I hear people say things always work out the best in the end, all the time. Is this really true? Is it just selective perception, to focus on the positive.

    Sure we hope all will work out for the best, we wish it would, but does it always really, or is that just playing a psychological trick that really is just a subjective point of view? Maybe it's beneficial for one to hope for the best and see the bright side, but saying all works out for the best goes beyond hope. It's almost a statement of "fact".

    When a situation affects a lot of people, who does it really work out for? Does it work out best for the individual or for the collective? Who is the beneficiary? Who is sacrificed?

    It all works out for the best assumes it's a win-win situation when you look at it from a larger point of view.

    For instance, when someone dies of a disease, did everything really work out for the best for that person? How could anyone know if it did or didn't work out for the best for all others affected if the person is dead anyway, there's no future with them to compare the future without them to.

    A lot of people pass off beliefs as fact, but questioning beliefs these days and finding things people say can be very fickle, very subjective, and non-realistic. As I question things, I'm finding belief is like a one sided point of view that disregards a lot of points of view, even facts, in order to make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtaur View Post
    I hear people say things always work out the best in the end, all the time. Is this really true? Is it just selective perception, to focus on the positive.

    Sure we hope all will work out for the best, we wish it would, but does it always really, or is that just playing a psychological trick that really is just a subjective point of view? Maybe it's beneficial for one to hope for the best and see the bright side, but saying all works out for the best goes beyond hope. It's almost a statement of "fact".

    When a situation affects a lot of people, who does it really work out for? Does it work out best for the individual or for the collective? Who is the beneficiary? Who is sacrificed?

    It all works out for the best assumes it's a win-win situation when you look at it from a larger point of view.

    For instance, when someone dies of a disease, did everything really work out for the best for that person? How could anyone know if it did or didn't work out for the best for all others affected if the person is dead anyway, there's no future with them to compare the future without them to.

    A lot of people pass off beliefs as fact, but questioning beliefs these days and finding things people say can be very fickle, very subjective, and non-realistic. As I question things, I'm finding belief is like a one sided point of view that disregards a lot of points of view, even facts, in order to make it work.

    This, in my opinion relates to perspective. If you are a planet such as the Earth, then overpopulation by humanity is definately not in its best interest. If you are a tiny human totally attached to your life (and all the ideas and illusions associated with this) then you would believe that longevity is in your best interest.

    And on it goes!

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    Is it really that the earth is overpopulated, or that the billions that are here are damaging it by excessive reckless behavior, thus creating the problems for the earth. I've heard the conspiracy theory that the overpopulation idea is actually promoted by NWO plans to depopulate the planet through various means. It may not be a numbers thing from the perspective of the earth, it's just the actions of the people that needs to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtaur View Post
    Is it really that the earth is overpopulated, or that the billions that are here are damaging it by excessive reckless behavior, thus creating the problems for the earth. I've heard the conspiracy theory that the overpopulation idea is actually promoted by NWO plans to depopulate the planet through various means. It may not be a numbers thing from the perspective of the earth, it's just the actions of the people that needs to change.
    Good point of course and it is easy to be sucked into media propaganda and repeat what is said. In my opinion parts of the world are overpopulated. I just compare that hunter gatherers to the population of a city.

    I dislike going into towns or shopping etc partly due to the amount of people I have to encounter. Same with supermarket shopping, same with riding the bus during working hours, and on and on. Certainly I could move to Northern Scotland and there would be pretty much no one around. But as far as I am concerned I see the world in which I live as terribly overpopulated.

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    To answer the OP question with a question. Would the mother who just lost her longed for newborn to miscarriage think, in the end, it all happens for the best? Would an impersonal witness to her loss find a way to rationalize the death of that baby/fetus, as something that in the end will make it all make sense? I don't think everything works out for the best. I think everything works to a rhythm that we're part of influencing, and if we find something positive in the outcome it's because we're innately selfish, for our own survival, and as such do so as to accept what is, at the end of it all. Like unto that old saying; everything happens for a reason. I think everything happens. And in order to live with it we find a way to give it a reason for happening.

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    I think that everything working out for the best is something that authority likes to tell gradeschoolers. There is not much grown ups can do in such a situation to save the meandering possibilities in the child. The grown ups have their roll and simply go day to day teaching them what they are supposed to. Gradeschoolers can believe this, and then maybe the way that they look at the world would be highlighted in brightness. This is good, because they can see large expanses in the mind that feel good to them.

    But then there are some people who come from very different backgrounds, and this saying does not always apply to them. I got a sense of culture shock when I went to a hippie school. And these days my guides let me experience different states of mind that another may inhabit. And these states of mind and differences truly can be totally unrelated to anything you know or experienced. Maybe you didn't actually think that existed. Like an alien from a different dimension. I don't mean this as derogatory but many people could inhabit many different types of dimensions that don't apply to the person next to them.

    And so, I think that the hope expressed through saying: everything will work out for the best is necessary for some people and creatures and things, and unnecessary for other creatures, people, and things. Some may be defensive about it, others may be strongly against it, and some may not even care nor have heard the thing. If one were trying to make his life positive, I wonder if making a habit of believing in the best would drive them towards this better life. I do know that I do not think this way. If I try to match up my life to what is commonly thought as "the best" outcome for every situation, I get very depressed. I think that the best can be compared with what is seen on TV. I think of smiling happy people. Perhaps they inhabit a mindset that is very corporal. This is not happiness to me. Happiness is a very personal thing to me and it is something that no one can truly see for sure within me.

    Everything working out for the best is an insult because there are so many dimensions in this world that they are unjudgeable, and every person is like his own universe that has his own color, riddle, language for judgements. Often the best ignores death and maybe some misunderstood or unrecognized personalities that aren't accepted yet.

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