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    Unlike theism which is imaginary and atheism which is nothing this worldview actually exists in the field. It is based on subjects and relations which have the highest conceptual scope of all words. It conforms with evolution theory, includes the definitions for right, wrong, happiness and love, and it has a moral code. It also has a diagram.

    This is an issue that goes back to the middle ages:

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/relations-medieval
    http://www.humanities.mq.edu.au/Ockham/z3609.html

    The failure of the medieval philosophers to solve this problem is the reason why I believe we are at war.

    Relations can be composed of units, objects or subjects. The relations of units is mathematics. The relations of objects is engineering. The relations of subjects is a worldview.



    Some of these items are not in the diagram, not everything can be drawn.

    Subject - a cross-utilized unit of a relation
    Relation - more than one subject combined together
    Extrinsic Subject - subject given to a relation
    Intrinsic Subject - subject contained in a relation
    Right - if a subject is within an extrinsic subject
    Wrong - if a subject is not within an extrinsic subject
    Possession - if an intrinsic subject is within a subject
    Good - what increases a relation
    Bad - what hinders or decreases a relation
    Horror - excessive Bad
    Serious - being within an extrinsic subject, also known as relevant
    Silly - happiness that is not within an extrinsic subject
    Crazy - if an extrinsic subject is ambiguous
    Confusion - if the choice of an extrinsic subject is ambiguous
    Value - direction of a relation
    Like - to share Values


    Happiness - occurs if subjects combine and form a relation. There are five different types of happiness. In order to include non-social relations in these definitions, the generic term combination is used symbolized with the letter 'C'.

    1stC - occurs when subjects combine and a relation is formed. Here the extrinsic subject is created. The terms 'more' and 'less' do not apply with 1stC. It is very important to clarify that with 1stC one does not say, "Happiness is the combination of subjects," but, "Happiness occurs if subjects combine and form a relation."

    2ndC - occurs when subjects are combined to an existing relation. Here the extrinsic subject already exists. The terms 'more' and 'less' apply with 2ndC. Leverage and contentment exist because of 2ndC.

    3rdC - occurs as the back and forth dynamics between relations. Here more than one extrinsic subject is involved.

    Leverage - resembles a lever, the relative lowering of a subject in a relation causes the relative increase of the other related subjects. This also is known as antipathetic happiness. Subjects on opposite sides of the lever are antipathetic to each other. An examples of this is kidding.

    Contentment - is a relative position a subject has in a relationship. This position is what we mean when we say we are "happy". Another term that applies here is "fashion". Fashion is the active form of contentment. This type of happiness is personal and can be stronger than 1stC. Some sub-emotions of contentment are:


    Enjoyment - having what you want (having what gives you contentment) *
    Grief - not having what you want *
    Frustration - not getting what you want
    Anger - extreme Frustration
    Distress - having what you don't want*
    Relief - not having what you don't want*

    Unhappiness is, of course, the converse but with separation instead of combination.

    Sorry - empathetic Unhappiness
    Regret - the action toward Sorry
    Gratitude - the action toward antipathetic Happiness
    Forgive - declaring Unhappiness to be irrelevant
    Blame - declaring Unhappiness to be relevant
    Nervous - anticipation of a combination
    Shy - extreme Nervousness
    Worry - anticipation of a separation
    Concern - mild Worry
    Fear - extreme Worry
    Terror - extreme Fear
    Anxiety - general term for Nervous, Shy, Worry, Concern, Fear or Terror

    Pride - above Contentment
    Shame - below Contentment
    Dignity - empathetic Pride
    Arrogance, Conceit - extreme Dignity
    Honor - the action toward Dignity
    Jealousy - antipathetic Pride
    Envy - the action toward Jealousy
    Respect - antipathetic Pride related to Fashion
    Admiration - the action toward Respect
    Modesty - empathetic Shame
    Humility - the action toward Modesty
    Pity - antipathetic Shame
    Contempt - extreme Pity
    Disgust - the action toward Pity

    Expectation - future Contentment
    Hope - the action toward Expectation (to want a future Contentment)
    Standard - past Contentment
    Surprise - empathetically or antipathetically above Standard or Expectation
    Embarrassment - empathetically below Standard or Expectation
    Disappointment - antipathetically below Standard or Expectation
    Ecstatic - extreme Surprise
    Sadness - extreme Disappointment or Embarrassment
    Hate - extreme antipathy
    Love - extreme empathy
    Miss - absent empathy

    Axiom: Extrinsic subjects can never be related intrinsic subjects. Such an event would instantly cause a new extrinsic subject to exist. This is called "The League Rule" or "The Authority Rule."

    Axiom: Related subjects do not combine for the same reason that unrelated subjects do not separate. This is called "The Base Rule". It is a significant factor in physical morality.


    *The definitions for Enjoyment, Grief, Distress and Relief are from I. Roseman 1984. Cognitive determinants of emotion: a structured theory. In P. Shaver (ed.), Review of personality and social psychology (Vol. 5: Emotions, relationships, and health). Beverly-Hills: Sage, 11-36.

    This is a system that is common to us all. It is not only about the mind but it is about the body as well. We are all subjects and we all have relatives. It can easily be proved in the same way that a whole is composed of parts or the many is composed of ones. All that needs to be done is to include it in academic philosophy. This is the only solution for world peace. No other words are possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHuber View Post
    The failure of the medieval philosophers to solve this problem is the reason why I believe we are at war.
    The medieval philosophers understood the natural world, but civilization didn’t understand what they were saying. The philosophers then were trying to understand the spiritual and scientific world.

    When they tried appling them together it just didn’t make sense in that era, and to help guide the people with what they under stood became contradictory, and frustrating.

    What is the purpose of life, and who’s God can become very mind boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SyberPsych View Post
    The medieval philosophers understood the natural world, but civilization didn’t understand what they were saying. The philosophers then were trying to understand the spiritual and scientific world.

    When they tried appling them together it just didn’t make sense in that era, and to help guide the people with what they under stood became contradictory, and frustrating.

    What is the purpose of life, and who’s God can become very mind boggling.
    I was referring to the medieval philosophers in reference to the subjects and relations problem as shown in these links.

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/relations-medieval
    http://www.humanities.mq.edu.au/Ockham/z3609.html

    These are the only references that I can find in all of academic philosophy.

    The legitimacy of a worldview is the foundation to what is right and wrong. Besides over natural resources, this is the reason why there are wars.

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