Whats it gonna take?

[majikman]

For the life of me I cannot understand the governments of this great planet.The earth is in peril and yet they do nothing.It just goes to show the strength of greed and the negative effects it can cause.If a man commits murder,he is held accountable and goes to jail.If a man gets a speeding ticket,again,he is held accountable and has to pay the fine.Yet the government allows pollution and toxins to be emited into our air and water and soil and says"we have a plan" yet does nothing.Yes I agree that if drastic changes were implemented to rectify the situation life as we know it would change.We would end up living like pioneers using horse and buggy,there would be no more vacations using jets,and the list of repercussions would go on....but ....would it be that bad.I am sure that since our evolution from the pioneer days technology has come a long way and we should incorporate this knowledge to helping save our resourses.To start....do we really need to bottle water for the retail market when all you have to do is fill up your personal water bottle at home.There are so many alternatives its silly to think we cannot do them.As for government policies where the environment is concerned...when are they gonna be held accountable?Oh,if I had a million dollars...........

[Celtaur]

I don't like to talk political, as it's very divisive. But I do like to encourage focus on the environment. The earth is such a beautiful place that deserves respect and reverence. Nature is Divine, we have the responsibility to focus our love and attention towards it.

I agree. I was thinking about this the other day. I really don't think that the governments have any intentions on changing things for the environment. If they did they would be speaking about it regularly, if not daily. They simply don't really put any effort into talking about it. Also, if they were truly interested in making the changes they would be focusing on supporting the myriad of scientists and engineers to create new, efficient ways of harnessing energy, making new cars. We have over six billion people on earth. There are so many intelligent, innovative thinkers in the field of science and engineering. There is no limit to the possibilities to make change, yet these possibilities are not supported. Governments don't put emphasis on supporting these types of advances by encouraging growth in these areas.

It is quite a joke to think that Governments care about the environment or making changes, because it is so obvious. If they did wish to truly focus on these areas, they would be talking about it regularly and publicly. They don't. Luckily many of the citizens of this world are waking up, and focusing their energy in the right direction. It's too bad the system suppresses evolution.

You mentioned plastic bottles. I personally don't buy plastic bottled water, it is incredibly wasteful.. a waste of energy, a waste of gas (transportation - not to mention water is extremely heavy which amounts to a lot of extra pollution when transported), a waste of plastic (which is also made from oil), a waste of money...

Many people throw out their plastic bottles as well rather than recycling them. One thing that bothered me years ago when I used to travel by mass transit bus route was the amount of coffee cups and lids thrown inside and around the bus shelter, as if it were a dump. I couldn't understand the consciousness of such people to litter and disrespect their environment in such a way. If this type of unconscious mess is an external expression of what is going on internally, it is truly sad to know that there are so many unaware people on this planet.

I'm so glad that we are able to come together in places like this and raise each others awareness. Even the little things make a huge impact. If we can't depend on the governments, at least we can do our part as best we can and learn and share with each other how we can make a difference.

[FairyHealer]

Breathe Majikman….

From an environmentalists point of view….Yes the world is in a sad state. We are more conscious of pollution today than ever before and many are trying to do their part in helping cut back. Of course the government is as aware of it as you and I are ~ but what is to be done about it? How do you take away the vehicles we are so depended upon? How do you stop people from travelling by plane? I read somewhere that there is jet fuel in breast milk these days …this is a scary thought.

The time for change will come and when it does ~ it will be chaos.

Life gives us what we need to learn and to grow, affecting us each personally and affecting the world population as well. We cannot continue to stockpile, to over fish, to deplete the forest and other natural resources to pollute and pollute and not pay for the consequences of our actions. For every action there is a re-action, science taught us this. And we, as a society will learn our lesson, one way or another. I personally have the feeling that it’s not gonna be pretty….sigh.

Each generation learns something from the generation before ~ and history is made. What important lessons have we learned and what are we continuing to learn about the environment?

PS. I wish you had a million dollars too, I know it would be spent wisely for the benifit of the whole and for our beautiful Planet Earth.

Peace & Environment…..the FairyHealer…+*+*+*+

[Celtaur]

Breathe well I don't like to think of the change in such a negative way. We do have the intelligence to make changes smoother. How long do people keep their vehicles for these days - 5-8 years? If new vehicles starting to be developed by the massive amounts of intelligent scientific thinkers and engineers, there's no ethical reason why they couldn't be on the market soon enough. With people buying the new vehicles the environment would start to slowly change. It will take time, but with the potentials that we can tap into with intelligence from economic to scientific endeavors, the world could change.

The government is like a pyramid, the citizens are at the bottom, but without the base, the foundation, there is no way to maintain the top. Therefor by making changes in our choices, we affect the higher echelon, and with our choices we have great power. We just have to focus on the direction we want to go, to be aware and active in our vision for the future. Thinking that things will be disastrous, and end in doom and gloom doesn't solve the problem, it is simply perceiving a possible outcome. We have the power to change the outcome, to change the future through our choices and actions in the now.

[FairyHealer]

Lets hope you’re right and like I said for every action there is a reaction ~ positive and negative. I would like to believe it could come out favorably for all ~ guess time will tell.

Peace & Action….the FairyHealer…+*+*+*+

[Cantesutawin]

It hurts to see the destruction and impact that we as individuals have on the environment. While I agree that government has a role to play, the reality is that much of the damage is caused by us. We want convenience, we are rampant consumers and we want what we want now.

I remember watching a documentary on China last year and I was really upset to see what is happening in China. Here is a country with the world's largest population and only 10% of the world's arible land and they are paving over farmland to create these mega factories. Why? So that we in the west can have our name brand runners and other items and so that those who are rich can get richer. When I lived in the states I saw a once mighty river reduced to a trickle due to diversion and the creation of these huge lakes to produce power and create recreation areas so that we could have places to enjoy our power boats.

As we have become more consumer oriented, increasingly urbanized and removed from the land we ignore the fact that what we do to the earth has reprocussions elsewhere. Climate change is one huge impact that we have had on the earth, and Mother Earth is retaliating against the damage that we have done to her.

We all have a role to play in this. I know that I have changed my life in small ways. First of all I no longer own a car since I live in a place with a very good public transit system. However, I do have to say that it would be easier if I owned a car, but I get more exercise because I walk more and when I start thinking about buying another one, I think about the good I'm doing for the environment and for my own health. I refuse to buy certain brands because of what they do to the environment. I use reusable bags and travel mugs when I buy coffee when I'm out. I recycle as much as I can to reduce the amount of garbage that I throw out. My next project is to create a compost bin in the back yard to further reduce the garbage our household produces.

I may be one person, but as Gandhi said "To change the world, be the change you want to see in the world" and if enough people start doing it there will be changes. Perhaps small over time, but there will be changes.

[FairyHealer]

Smiles....seems to me you're doing your part

"To change the world, be the change you want to see in the world" and if enough people start doing it there will be changes. Perhaps small over time, but there will be changes.

I just recently came across this quote and it's become a mantra of mine ~ I love it.

[Celtaur]

When I lived in the states I saw a once mighty river reduced to a trickle due to diversion and the creation of these huge lakes to produce power and create recreation areas so that we could have places to enjoy our power boats.

I saw a clip on the internet yesterday on how water is being pumped into the grand canyon to nourish the ecosystems there. What I don't understand is why the water is cut off in the first place by a dam. Dams don't make sense to me, they seem very unnatural, like blocking an artery in the body, they must have huge negative impacts on ecosystems. I'm no engineer, but curious as to what kind of detrimental affects these man made blockages do to the earth.

China... Yes, the supplier to the all consuming west. How sad that their waterways, air, etc are becoming so polluted, so hazardous to life. Does this make sense? People working to make a living that is essentially lower quality... Unhealthy long hours, little pay, toxic environment... Where is the logic in that? I truly don't understand why people are such cancers to the earth and themselves.

[FairyHealer]

The way I see it is...It all boils down to the mighty $Buck$. And it's unfortunate that it is this way. Many big companies and our government has the...buy/use/abuse now... and pay for it later attitude.

We will all have to deal with the consequences of such actions. Live and Learn.

[Cantesutawin]

I saw a clip on the internet yesterday on how water is being pumped into the grand canyon to nourish the ecosystems there. What I don't understand is why the water is cut off in the first place by a dam. Dams don't make sense to me, they seem very unnatural, like blocking an artery in the body, they must have huge negative impacts on ecosystems. I'm no engineer, but curious as to what kind of detrimental affects these man made blockages do to the earth.

When I see developments like this I always ask why? Then I remember what was taught in catechism that God created the earth and all it's creatures for man. Man is at the top and everything else is just a thing.

I remember what I was taught by and Elder once. He asked me three questions.....First what would happen to man if we took away all the trees.....my answer Man would die. Second: What happens to man if you take away all the animals? That's easy, man dies.......Thirdly What happens to man if you take way Mother Earth? Man dies......then he asked...."My girl, what happens if you take away man?" I answered, everything else continues forever.....Lastly he said "So who is really in charge?"