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    I have read that the cross as a symbol of Christianity was actually taken out of context and misrepresented when applying it to religious wear, such as clothing or jewelry. Loosely based on rumours circulating, a large idea is that when Christianity was infiltrated, it was 'Satanists' who actually made the cross a popular piece of jewelry to wear. It has been glamourized by the media, celebrities, and clothing lines such as Affliction and many others. I'm not sure how accurate this idea is, but that is supposedly why crosses are so big in the music industry and everywhere else. If you follow fashion, I can tell you that inverted crosses and what not have become incredibly mainstream and 'trendy', with hipsters trucking around looking like a bunch of pagan goths of some sort. But the traditionalist cross that we all are familiar with is the trickier one supposedly, because it is allegedly just a reminder that Christ was brutally murdered and tortured, and what a better way to 'celebrate' this 'victory' than to make it something popular to wear. I know this idea comes across as seemingly far-fetched or unconventional, but when it comes to mind-control, isn't that the entire point, to make the individual think that something so orthodox could never be pertaining to something so dark? On a slightly unrelated note, the Illuminati use symbols to blatantly put there message out there in the media and the world, as some sort of karmic self-preservation and/or for the satisfaction showcasing that we are all puppets to their schemes and not-so-hidden agenda. In that sense, I can completely understand why the cross is being thrown about into the fashion and media world, keyword being understand, not condone. It also explains why so many suspected mind-controlled celebrities would wear one. This goes even deeper all the way to the Vatican, in their dress and attire as well. The colors of their garments also play a key factor, but I won't get into all that in this post. So is it so odd to consider that the cross, both inverted and regular, is in actuality a symbol for the Anti-Christ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtaur View Post
    This is fascinating. So Logos and Saturn would be outside the cross, when flipped down. The image above looks like the symbol for venus. Why is the ankh circle usually oval, as an elongated circle though?
    The inner sanctum or vesica piscis is oval.

    When you connect the dots from the Monad to the sun, you get an oval.( You can take out the horizontal lines from Saturn to Logos and from Mars to Jupiter if it makes it more clear.) Then, take out the diagonal lines from the moon to venus and from the moon to mercury. Now continue the line from earth to moon upwards to sun. Now you have an ankh.
    The road runs both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruth View Post
    The cross is one of the oldest and most wide spread symbolic forms.

    When considered as the four outer points, it represents the four cardinal directions (North, East, South, West), the four seasons (as well as the equinoxes and the solstices), the four elements (Air, Earth, Fire, Water), and the four stages of life (childhood, youth, mature adult, old age).

    In ancient China, the central point was included to give an association with five. This was particularly potent, as they recognised five colours, five musical tones, five planets and five metallic elements. Five was also regarded as the harmony of union between Yin and Yang.

    Considering only the two arms of the cross, it was used to represent the meeting of opposite realms: heaven and earth, the living and the dead (particularly in the African tradition where it had deep association with the meeting of two roads - the crossroads).

    In Asia, the vertical line symbolised the masculine 'active' principle, whilst the horizontal line represented the feminine 'passive' principle. The cross, therefore, symbolised the balancing of active and passive and, hence, (Wo)Man perfected.

    When inscribed within a circle (particularly prevalent in Asiatic and ancient Germanic culture), the cross becomes a sun symbol. One expression of this in both societies was the Swastika.

    As a symbol of Christianity, the cross took a long time to be accepted. As such, it is a symbol of Christ's triumph and suffering. It appears in many hidden forms in Christian art, including the Anchor.

    A very old form, known as the forked cross (a stylised Y), refers to the Tree of Life. As such, it represents the paradise of Eden and the longed for fulfillment of that promise at the end of time. (As opposed to the Tree of Knowledge whose seductive fruits distract us from divine counsel).

    Finally: the Ankh of the ancient Egyptians symbolised life; the key to the realm of the dead in funereal imagery; and the sun's blessings on the Earth.


    Here is another meaning of the cross.

    The cross represents the dual energies, their movements, and the order in which the Grace paths believe they should be experienced. You can see this better by the hand movement Catholics do in “The sign of the Cross,” The right hand begins at the forehead and moves downward - symbolizing the downward movement of Grace or Light. Then the hand moves upward - symbolizing the upward movement of Passion or Kundalini. Finally the hand moves from left to right (I like to do mine with palm up in a giving type gesture.) - symbolizing that both of these energies are given to the “World” (outer society or inner being) in equal measure.

    This is why I wear a cross.
    The road runs both ways.

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    I have another interpretation of the sign of the cross which is in the lords prayer think...the qabbalistic cross
    from the head to earth ata malkuth, the spirit in the earth, in man, then right to left mars to jupiter power and compasssion
    I do not like the leohlam so there fore vibrate sol for lesser inner spirit of higher self/christ.

    The tau is tav the cross symbol of the universe world tarot card as within a microcosm of all the planetary powers, access to the astral
    The T because originally there were only 3 elements fire air and water in perfect balance,then the equal armed + 4 elements with spirit in the middle, sol or YHVH or YHSVH jesus yeshuah a man (any human) adam kadmon


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    The cross intersects energy and matter, isis and osirus of the ankh, life
    the cross is directly below tipareth the sun, the rose on the tree of life (rose cross)

    Variations on this ancient pre-christian cross are found all over the world – from New Mexico Pueblo ruins to Celtic hoards.. According to The Celtic Art Source Book, by Courtney Davis, crosses have been found in Europe that date as far back as 10,000 BC. For example, there are crosses carved into tiny pebbles inside a cave in the French Pyrenees.
    The viking cross fylfot "many footed" swastika predates on sheilds and stones, as does the celtic suncross and swastikas, brighids cross was a swastika. Thors hammer can kind of be seen as a T like a gnostic T cross, tau, tav as said. Hollowing is done in a cross motion at the 4 directions, and the double headed axe also represents male and female,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fylfot
    similar to the aryan vedic yantra



    cross sunwheel of the 8 pagan solar sabbats of the seasonal year


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    The cross is linked with the crossroads and crucifixition mysteries, the circle and the cross of earth, and the solar cross


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    going back to what I said about the qabbalistic cross/ lords prayer, the cross also represents Horus as the horizon line and the wand or line of a spine of a man standing upright or the pole star, arrow shooting up into the sky or TYR rune. Looking at the letters of TYR, you get the T cross, Y of the tree of life/godman form and the R of ray or movement of light.
    when looking at norse culture


    Tyr is the god of war like mars, who odin and thor later absorbed some of his lore/powers.
    Mars is linked to blood and sacrifice.
    And cannot forget about Odin/Woden all father, who hung on the tree and gained enlightenment and use of the runes/ words. And the hanged man on the T tree cross, tav/ankh. Represents initiation and saturnic links to death card through the mother letter mem, water. Which is why the black robe of the initiate in western magick is called the Tau robe and masonic death/ wiccan saturnic initiation.



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    Quote Originally Posted by brifae View Post
    The cross intersects energy and matter, isis and osirus of the ankh, life
    the cross is directly below tipareth the sun, the rose on the tree of life (rose cross)

    Variations on this ancient pre-christian cross are found all over the world – from New Mexico Pueblo ruins to Celtic hoards.. According to The Celtic Art Source Book, by Courtney Davis, crosses have been found in Europe that date as far back as 10,000 BC. For example, there are crosses carved into tiny pebbles inside a cave in the French Pyrenees.
    The viking cross fylfot "many footed" swastika predates on sheilds and stones, as does the celtic suncross and swastikas, brighids cross was a swastika. Thors hammer can kind of be seen as a T like a gnostic T cross, tau, tav as said. Hollowing is done in a cross motion at the 4 directions, and the double headed axe also represents male and female,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fylfot
    similar to the aryan vedic yantra



    cross sunwheel of the 8 pagan solar sabbats of the seasonal year
    I must disagree with the last video clip in this set about the way the swastika spins. Just imagine:

    2 poles lashed together to make a cross. Now tie a handkerchief on the end of each pole. Now spin the pole. Notice that the handkerchiefs follow the pole. The pole will always lead the flag. So, this guy has it backwards.

    Flags and sails fly on the side of the pole that is away from the wind. So if the wind is blowing from left to right, the flag will be on the right side of the pole.

    The one labeled Unconditional Love should spin to the right. Kundalini or Passion moves upward and spins to the right.
    The one labeled Unceasing Light should spin to the left. Grace or Light flows downward and spins to the left. Which is why this is called the left-handed path.

    So, he has the characteristics right, but the way the symbol spins is backwards.
    The road runs both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nventr View Post
    I must disagree with the last video clip in this set about the way the swastika spins.
    The one labeled Unconditional Love should spin to the right. Kundalini or Passion moves upward and spins to the right.
    The one labeled Unceasing Light should spin to the left. Grace or Light flows downward and spins to the left. Which is why this is called the left-handed path.
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    Interesting, since the cross is a symbol of the sun or greater sun and light, deosil or sunwise is clockwise to increase, and counterclockwise is male or decrease


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    Quote Originally Posted by brifae View Post
    Interesting, since the cross is a symbol of the sun or greater sun and light, deosil or sunwise is clockwise to increase, and counterclockwise is male or decrease
    The Divine Masculine is Light or Grace. So, yes the masculine does spin to the left. (Path for women or creatives)

    Divine Feminine is Passion or Kundalini. So, the feminine does spin to the right. (Path for men or intellectuals.)
    The road runs both ways.

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